A couple of years ago, if you had driven an hour north of downtown LA you would have been in a war zone, a slice of hellish Iraq right there in the arid desert of California.

An American unit of young men and women is pinned down by insurgents holed up in the mosque on the hill, all around them a parched landscape is peppered by gunfire.

A jeep explodes, a soldier in full combat gear rolls in the dry earth under a sweltering sky — and then a guy in jeans and a t-shirt ambles past with a cheese platter, biscuits and a range of cold drinks. The shooting stops and all the players in this human drama head for the shade to shelter from the 35 degree heat.

This was the location of Over There, a controversial television drama series by producer Steven Bochco and writer Chris Gerolmo.

Set in the battle zones of present day Iraq, the uncompromisingly realistic series drew flak and praise from all sides in the American media. Some saw it as undermining the morale of the young men and women on the front, others argued it glorified the excitement and drama of war for the purposes of a television series.

Some said it was a necessary piece of television drama and noted that during the Vietnam era only a couple of films were made where that war was the setting.

If the first casualty of war is truth, then in America at the time fiction was not far behind.

Over There – about a company of young soldiers in Iraq – was first wounded by an unsympathetic audience, then put out of its misery by Fox executives after just one season.

there2More than four million in the US watched that uncompromising opening episode, but only 1.3 million viewers tuned in for the final.

Created by Gerolmo and Bochco (the latter devised the innovative Hill Street Blues, NYPD Blue and LA Law), Over There proved too uncomfortable for an American public with increasing doubts about the war, but even less interest in a series in which their troops were portrayed as often unheroic, sometimes confused and occasionally nasty bastards.

Any show in which a central character gets his leg blown off at the end of the first episode is almost asking viewers to change channels. And when one American soldier, the fatalistic Mrs B, stands over the body of an insurgent, slowly crushing his dead fingers beneath her boot, we are invited to think that the humiliations at Abu Ghraib probably started with just such small but calculated incidents.

Despite conforming to ensemble clichés – the unit includes two women (one white, one Hispanic), two blacks (one from the ’hood, the other educated and sensitive), and two white guys (the wide-eyed Texan football hero, and an intellectual who ponders the heart of darkness that war reveals) – Over There didn’t flinch from uncomfortable truths.

One captured leader of an insurgent group screamed, “Now you will take me to Abu Ghraib. Do you have a bag for my head? Do you want me to take my clothes off now?”

there3   Much of what unfolded on- screen, which was often filmed through night-vision lenses and filters to imitate news footage, seemed ripped from frontline soldiers’ reports home.

The nail-biting second episode, in which the unit manned a roadblock and, faced with civilian vehicles speeding toward them, had to make quick judgments with fatal consequences, was lifted from Generation Kill, Rolling Stone journalist Evan Wright’s account of travelling with a Marine Corp special operations unit in the first days of the war.

The series’ technical consultant was a Marine staff sergeant who served in Iraq, and those who have been in the war zone testify that Over There was often disturbingly accurate. It was justifiably acclaimed by TV writers for its realism.

Even so, it drew criticism from all sides of the American media, some accusing it of glamorising the camaraderie and excitement of war, others angered that it refused to take a clear political position.

Bochco insisted he was never going to be drawn into that debate, and Gerolmo set himself clear parameters.

“It is about war and the human consequences of war, and that doesn’t have anything to do with the politics of left and right or Democrat or Republican, or American foreign policy. We’re not writing about American foreign policy makers, we’re writing about 20-year-old privates.

“Once you write about war and the human consequences, you are going to offend people who don’t want people to see this kind of material, so on that level it is going to be controversial.”

Over There also dealt with the boredom of soldiering, the folks back home – the alcoholic wife, loyal partners and worried parents – and attempted some perspective on Middle East opinions.

When the Arab-American soldier Tariq tries to explain to his colleagues why young Saudis have joined the conflict, Gerolmo gave him an analogy that viewers on the couch might understand: it’s like being a hippie in the 60s and hearing about Woodstock. You can’t just not go.

“It’s jihad, the holy war against the Americans. For some of these kids, it’s like the most exciting thing that’s ever happened in their world.”

That wasn’t what many American viewers wanted to hear.

In the face of dwindling audiences, Gerolmo defended his lightning-rod programme: “I think we are doing exactly what television is supposed to do. We are bringing the world to your living-room in a powerful and sometimes harrowing, realistic way, and as accurately as we can. If we are affecting national and international conversation about the war by slightly raising the level of people’s acquaintanceship with what it would be like to be on the ground, that would be a result we’d be proud of.”

He argued news reports can deal with the facts of a military engagement and serve up a casualty list, but fail to address the human drama.there4

“We’re not exactly trying to fill the holes the news is leaving, but we’re telling stories about these young people in Iraq and putting them in situations in which a lot of people on the ground find themselves. We’re trying to give the audience a feeling for what that would be like.”

Then there is the knotty question of whose side Bochco and Gerolmo are on, if any.

The words Gerolmo writes for his characters catch some of the ambiguous nature of the series.

As the character Dim (sensitive white guy) says in a video message back home at the end of the first episode: “We’re monsters and war is what unmasks us. But there’s a kind of honour in it too, a kind of grace.“

The ambiguity meant the series wasn’t any easy target for political commentators and that pleased Bochco, an industry veteran.

“If we are an equal opportunity offender on some level, then I figure we are doing our job.”

But Bochco was also adamant they were simply making a television series just like NYPD Blue which was also about human drama.

“If you are going to say we are on shaky moral ground doing a show about a war in Iraq because it is on-going, then you’d also have to argue we’re on shaky moral ground doing a police drama about an urban war that is on-going. And I don’t think we are.

“Everyone knows what this show is about.”

Gerolmo — who wrote and sang the theme to Over There, in addition to directing some episodes — says to achieve realism, and avoid criticism from the military and veterans, Over There pays meticulous attention to accuracy.

The on-set technical advisor was Staff Sergeant Staff Sergent Sean Thomas Bunch, a 10-year veteran of the Marines who had two tours of duty in Iraq. He coached the cast in how soldiers react under fire, how to handle munitions and machinery, and put them through a training regime in full combat gear.

And out on the set, the young cast were unanimously appreciative of a series which they saw as important, although none would be drawn on their own political view of the war.

In an curious piece of life imitating art, many of the actors’ lives bore uncanny similarities to the characters they play: actor Josh Henderson (the gung-ho Bo) comes from Texas and was a football player like his character; Luke McFarland (the intellectual Dim) graduated from the Julliard Drama Division and plays cello; Keith Robinson (the choir singer Angel) was in a group signed to Motown; and Kirk “Sticky” Jones (the ghetto graduate Smoke) is Brooklyn-born, was a member of the hip-hop group ONYX, and appeared in such hard-edge movies as Dead Presidents and Clockers.

All of them have friends who have served in Iraq or the military, and Omid Abtahi — the Middle Eastern GI Tariq who turns up the episode two and is met with suspicion by Smoke — has a brother who served in Afghanistan.

“He has a hard time talking about it,” says Abtahi sitting in his trailer escaping the desert heat. “He tells me about the racial comments he got and I kinda felt it was very similar to how my character feels about it. But [my brother] doesn’t feel comfortable talking about actual combat.

Over_There“He was nervous about the show at first but he saw the first two episodes and went, ‘My God, it’s so intense’. It gave him goosebumps at certain moments, like the truck going past before it gets blown up — and the roadblock duty. He said we’d done a really good job.”

Abtahi accepts that some people will be uncomfortable with the necessarily graphic nature and sudden violence of the show: in the first episode a man has the top half of his body blown off, in the second an Iraqi child is killed by the soldiers manning a roadblock. But he says Bochco and Gerolmo are trying to write an apolitical story about the reality of frontline war, and how soldiers are changed by the events in which they find themselves.

“We each have our own politics but Steven Bochco said it best, once you get into politics you lose half your audience and it stops being a television show. So I think they are being pretty smart staying away from [politics] . . . as much as it is possible to stay away from it.”

On the walls of Canadian-born actor Luke MacFarlane‘s trailer in the Californian desert is his homework: newspaper photos of Iraq, burned-out tanks and the aftermath of car bombs, of American soldiers moving along a road between swathes of smoke . . .

They aren’t pretty images, but they remind MacFarlane of the character he currently inhabits and the context in which that man lives.

Here in the gravel-strewn, barren desert MacFarlane is playing the thoughtful American GI called Dim by his fellow soldiers.

“One thing the military teaches you, for good reason,” says MacFarlane “is to follow the chain of command. That keeps you alive. But Dim has a hard time with that, he‘s very smart and he thinks outside the box. People do exist in the army that way — but I think it‘s not looked upon as a good thing.”

He scans the images on his wall and talks about how difficult this role is.

“You have an obligation to do a good job of it, so emotionally it is hard. What if someone standing over there had a son or daughter who died in Iraq and they saw me slacking off or being a diva. They would think, ’How dare you?’

“So in that sense it is very hard. And the material is hard. Dim goes to some dark places.”

MacFarlane says before shooting started he read books by embedded reporters such as Rick Atkinson (In The Company of Soldiers) and Wright (Generation Kill).

“One of the most interesting things about this war is it is the first where the infrastructure and technology has been set up in terms of communication. So I found early on I was actually reading a lot of web logs written by soldiers over there, both British and American.”

What MacFarlane learned and brought to his character was that in the downtime soldiers’ thoughts turn to home.

A scene which many find especially moving involves MacFarlane’s character sending a video message back home to his drunken wife whom we see in the background with another man.

“It’s everybody’s biggest fear and if it’s just a mess . . . What my wife is going through, the drinking, is a way of not having to deal with this constant fear of losing your husband, it’s a reaction to it. She wasn’t always a bitch. She medicates herself.”

The stories of the soldiers’ families is a large component of Over There, Bochco estimates almost half the series is about the people back home.

“We wanted to spend a significant amount of time tethering [the soldiers’ lives] to stories about husbands, wives, children and parents of those left behind at home. If we go back and forth we get a much fuller, more dimensional picture about what the consequence of war is to everybody who is connected to it.

“We have no problem with being controversial and doing a show about an arena which by definition will create a certain amount of controversy. What we are adamant about is not letting the show become a political forum for a point of view. That is simply not going to happen.”

It was a courageous series, but probably always doomed.

M*A*S*H, it wasn’t.

Coincidentally, when this Fox cable series ran in the US, the network was also screening Company of Heroes, a two-hour documentary about a Marine company taking Fallujah in November 2004. It was a graphic account of door-to-door fighting, death on the frontline and the fears of those back home.

It was Over There, but true.

And the www.goarmy.com recruitment ads running at the time looked scarily similar to Over There, Company of Heroes and CNN footage.

The lines between advertising, documentary, news and drama were effectively being erased.

More casualties of war.

Access Star Sightings: October 16 – 22, 2009


Saturday, October 17, in Las Vegas: Taylor Swift shopping at Armani Exchange with her mom before lunch at Diablo’s Cantina, before heading to her gig at Justin Timberlake’s charity concert with a reunited TLC, Alicia Keys, Timbaland and Justin himself.

Sunday, October 18, in LA: Pauly Shore picking up a black suitcase at the Burbank Airport… Mark Walhberg stepping out for Starbucks on Mulholland and Beverly Glen… actors Chad Allen of Here TV’s “The Donald Strachey Mysteries” and Luke MacFarlane of ABC’s “Brothers & Sisters” spinning their wheels on a 200 mile charity bike ride to Santa Barbara and back, raising money for the Youth, Mental Health and Addition Recovery services department of the LA Gay & Lesbian Center.

Tuesday, October 20, in LA: Leonardo DiCaprio in downtown LA’s EVO, checking out the property’s eco-friendly penthouses between shooting scenes with Ellen Page and Joseph-Gordon Levitt for Christopher Nolan’s “Inception”… Aziz Ansari waiting in line for indie rockers Grizzly Bear’s Hollywood Palladium concert … and after the show, Michelle Williams, Busy Philipps, Pete Yorn and Devendra Banhart in good spirits at the after party.

Wednesday, October 21, in LA: “The Office” star Angela Kinsey hanging around the UCB Theater with “Hangover” star Rachel Harris.

Thursday, October 22, in NYC: Sienna Miller taking a bow on the opening night of her Broadway play, “After Miss Julie”… Claire Danes spotted exiting the performance.

And in San Francisco: Charlize Theron planting a kiss on a woman during the One X One charity auction – earned for the winning bid of $140,000 which included a two-week trip to South Africa.

Source: Access Hollywood

Interview: Luke Macfarlane


Luke Macfarlane is quickly establishing himself as a leading man in Hollywood by bringing a winning combination of charm, versatility and intelligence to his roles. He plays Scotty Wandell in the critically-acclaimed drama Brothers & Sisters – and with the season three DVD released this week, we bring you an interview with the actor about his role on the show.

You appeared in the first season of ‘Brothers & Sisters’ as a guest star. Did you know back then that you would become a cast regular by the third season?

It’s funny, but I never imagined I would be a cast regular on Brothers & Sisters – especially by way of marriage. I remember riding bikes over to one of the sets a while ago and asking Matthew Rhys [who plays Luke’s lover on the show], “What do they have in store for us?” And he said, “I think we’re getting married.” It was a total surprise to me.

Were you excited about the prospect of becoming a series regular?

Definitely. It’s always really nice when you come into something and your agents tell you, “There’s a possibility for you to become a series regular here.” However, it was a complete surprise because I had no idea where they were going with the storyline. In fact, I continue to have no idea where they’re going with it.

Was there an immediate chemistry between you and Matthew Rhys?

We always got along very, very well and there was never any awkwardness between us. Matthew was ready to jump into the gay love affair with great aplomb, which was fantastic. I don’t think we’ve ever had any tension between us. It’s always been great.

Do you receive much fan mail on the show?

I’ve had a number of letters from the gay community talking about the lack of role models for gay people on television and how happy they are to see Scotty and Kevin together. I really applaud the show’s creators for depicting a real romance for them. I’m glad they didn’t go for any clichés.

Do you receive more letters from women or men?

I’m always surprised that I get as many letters from girls as I do from boys. In fact, I’m always amazed at the care these people put into some of the letters. Sometimes I get drawings and it’s totally flattering. At the end of the day, we wake up really early in the morning and we go to work to do our thing. We sometimes forget that the show gets beamed out into the universe, so it’s always very touching and flattering to receive mail about it.

How long does it take to shoot an episode?

We usually work on nine-day episodes. Hopefully they give us the script about a week in advance, but as you approach the end of a season, it sometimes arrives about two days before we start on an episode. I think we’re very fortunate because we have such terrific writers and terrific actors – and there is a real sense of collaboration on the show.

Do you have much input into your character?

Sure. After the first table read, which they try to do for every episode, the actors can approach the writers and say, “I think I might want to do this.” I love the way it’s open for us to do that. From my experience on other television shows, I haven’t seen as much collaboration between the actors and the writers. We’re very fortunate on Brothers & Sisters.

Can you change the wording in the script if you’re not satisfied with it?

Well, you can talk about it with the writers and change things. With certain producers you have to say every line as it’s written in the script, but there are other producers who let you do your own thing. That’s not to say we don’t respect the scripts tremendously – but the longer the show goes on, the more the actor owns the part. The writers and producers start to encourage us to say what we want to say.

Your character marries Kevin Walker in the show, but that’s something that most gay couples in California cannot do anymore. How did this storyline come about?

I find this a fascinating story because I think the election happened about a week after the show aired in the States – and then Prop 8 didn’t pass. It was amazing that we’d done this thing that was, without foresight, very provocative.

Did you enjoy filming the wedding scene?

It was wonderful. It kind of felt like we were doing something big – and it was all done with great care. The writers spoke with someone who had officiated gay marriages, so the words were very accurate and in line. It was all really beautiful.

How well does the cast get along?

We all get along extremely well. There’s a great camaraderie on our set and everyone is very professional. We all get on with our work, but we also hang out together when we’re not working. It’s a great show in that respect.

What’s it like to work with Matthew Rhys?

It’s great. Matthew is an incredible actor and an incredible guy. We both come from theatre backgrounds, so our approach to the material is very similar. I couldn’t be happier.

And what’s it like to work with Sally Field?

Sally Field is amazing. She really makes you raise your game when you’re on set. She’s like a leader in some ways. I remember one time specifically when we were filming a dinner scene and there was a lot of chatter among the cast. It was late at night and we’d had a really long day, but she just stood up and said, “Everybody be quiet.” Everyone went quiet. She has that kind of effect.

‘Brothers and Sisters: Season 3′ is available to buy on DVD now.

Source: Entertainment Focus

Out of the closet and on to primetime


Is it me or has everyone on Brothers And Sisters suddenly turned gay? Last week’s episode of the popular M-Net drama series saw an entire episode focus on every gay character in the series and the storylines that pivoted around them were heightened ten-fold.

Fans of the show already know that there’s a focus on gay relationships to the same extent that there’s a focus on straight relationships, and this is one of the first series to depict gay interaction in a way that it actually reflects real life.

When the Brothers and Sisters first emerged three seasons ago, we were introduced to Kevin Walker (played with such ease by straight Irish actor Matthew Rhys), a lawyer and part of the hugely dysfunctional Walker clan. Kevin was also an openly gay character and, for the first time, it wasn’t a gay character dying of Aids or an uber-camp hairdresser flapping his wrists like he was guiding a Boeing into a parking bay.

With the exception of his sexual orientation, Kevin was exactly the same as the rest of his brothers and sisters – flawed, issued, sometimes irritating, always endearing. And as the character developed, Kevin soon met his life-partner, Scotty Wandell, played by Luke MacFarlane, and they eventually got married at the beginning of the third season, which we’re currently watching on M-Net.

I interviewed MacFarlane in Cape Town earlier this year and because he’s actually gay in real life, a lot of our talk turned to this very subject.

The fact is, America has a huge section of its viewership in what is referred to as the Bible Belt, and ratings from this sector often make or break a show.

Apparently, Dirty Sexy Money folded because these viewers believed it to be too focused on materialism and greed, Eli Stone was not re-commissioned because some Earthly being was playing God and Pushing Daisies wilted for much the same reason. The list goes on.

MacFarlane says this was a concern for the producers when they first mulled over the creation of these characters. But because there’s such a large, on-going conversation about same-sex equality in the US, this attempt to show a gay couple in this way meant a lot to American society in terms of finding real role models.

So the characters, MacFarlane says, have been received very well, just because there is this desire for people to have role models specifically in the gay community.

Another interesting fact is that Kevin and Scotty’s wedding was the first gay marriage in a recurring role on US television, so it was a very big deal. It was also the first man-to-man kiss on primetime television, that wasn’t a comedy, so they were breaking ground on so many other levels too.

MacFarlane, who has, in the past, been dogged with rumours that he’s dating Prison Break’s Wentworth Miller, says he brings a lot of himself into this role of Scotty Wandell. He says he admires Scotty’s sense of right and wrong, and his very strong sense of self.

But the thing he’s most pleased about is the fact that they actually get to show a gay relationship through a long process. He admits that very rarely do viewers get to see this kind of relationship in a show – them meeting for the first time, breaking up for the first time, getting back together for the first time and then getting married.

And MacFarlane feels that’s a very accurate portrait of any relationship out there, never mind a gay one, and that’s the due integrity that should always be given to these characters.

But are they milking the concept a little now?

Saul (played by Ron Rifkin), the brother of Sally Field’s character, Nora, has also come out of the closet. Saul is probably in his early 60s and is, for the first time, searching for the kind of relationship he was never allowed to have because of societal dictates earlier on in his life.

While the twist was unexpected, I think this storyline is becoming more about making a point than being dramatic.

I can’t wait to see who else they pull out of this closet next. A lesbian? A black woman? A back woman who’s Tonight, South Africaa lesbian?

I suppose I can live in hope.

Source: Tonight (South Africa)

Greg’s Celebrity Encounters: Rubbing elbows with Scotty and Kevin from “Brothers & Sisters”


ABC’s Brothers & Sisters has its fourth season premiere tomorrow night and gay couple Kevin (Matthew Rhys) and Scotty (Luke Macfarlane) and word has it that they are considering becoming parents.

Both are such good actors and seem like good guys. I first met Luke at the 2007 LA Gay and Lesbian Center Gala. He was not yet out publicly but could not have been nicer. We spoke the next year at a TV Academy event shortly after he came out publicly as a gay man in an interview with the Canadian newspaper The Globe and Mail.

He said of coming out: “I’ll say that I decided to do that interview, I decided to answer those questions in an effort to make my life simpler and that’s going to continue to be my motto.”

Scotty Wandell and Kevin Walker had instant chemistry from the minute the financially struggling waiter-turned-chef walked into his law office on a legal matter. He cut through Kevin’s veneer with quirky humor and charm and you knew he had Kevin’s heart when he bit into a red velvet cupcake and smiled at the end of one of their early episodes..

“My whole experience on the show started off as just a few episodes and it’s just become more and more and more and I’m so grateful for that,” Luke told. “…I do know that the fans had a lot to do with Scotty staying around as long as he has so I’m grateful for them.”

I’ve met Matthew om several occasions and it’s always a little surprising to hear him speak in a Welsh accent since Kevin is so Californian.

It just shows what a damned good actor he is!

In one of our interviews, Matthew talked to me about why Scotty and Kevin make such a good couple: “We do have (chemistry). It’s a real joy to work with him, a pleasure. As much as (Kevin and Scotty’s) drama came from their turbulence and the conflict in their relationship, being now in this (committed) relationship opens up a world of drama for them to play out.  … What’s great is they really have picked two very diverse characters, the two of us compliment us very well as characters. Kevin can be a little bit uptight at times whereas Scotty, is a little bit too much of a free-spirit. So when the two meet, it makes for humorous times.”

Source: Greg in Hollywood

Beam Me Up, Scotty


Beam Me Up, Scotty

What do Luke Macfarlane (Scotty from Brothers & Sisters), the ‘running man’ and a bottle of tequila have in common? Absolutely nothing, really. But if you imagine all three of them together, you’ll have a fairly good idea of how my evening turned out last night.

Luke and his equally adorable co-star Dave Annable (Justin) were in Cape Town this week promoting the show, and COSMO couldn’t miss the opportunity of showing them the city – our way.

We started at Wakame, a popular beach-front restaurant in Mouille Point. The boys had been out the night before and had had a day packed with media interviews, but their stamina showed no signs of fading. They were full of energy as they arrived.

Both guys are the friendliest, warmest, most sincere celebs I’ve had the privilege of meeting. And cute. The ‘it’s-hard-to-breathe-around-them’ kind of cute. We instantly tumbled into conversations about their trip to Cape Town, my recent trip to the US, their new president, our new president, and more. They’re both enthusiastic travellers. Grass-roots travellers at that. They told us they would choose a tent over a plush hotel any day. They asked me which animals are in the Big Five. I couldn’t remember (I am such a city girl!). I rambled off a few animal names, trying to sound knowledgeable about all things bush-related. They didn’t look convinced.

Our meal was fantastic and the champagne was even better. Not ready to call it a night, we suggested they join us at Jade, a drinking spot in Green Point.

Jade was heaving when we arrived. In true Cape Town form, few people made a fuss about the boys (we are too cool for that down here!). But there were a couple of mandatory squeals from enamoured fans catching sight of their favourite TV hotties for the first time. And the guys were gracious and obliging, chatting to the fans who encircled them.

Beers were ordered. Tequila was ordered. Pictures were taken. More beers were ordered. Assurances were made that we would get them to the airport in time to catch a flight to Jo’burg in the morning. Champagne was ordered. More tequila was ordered. I started to regret the assurance I gave them that we would get them to the airport in time to catch a flight to Jo’burg in the morning…

Luke and I informally challenged each other to a dance-off. He came with a shimmer shoulder. I came with the ‘running man’. In heels. No contest – I won. Hours of dancing and singing and high-fiving and partying followed. And then their eagle-eyed publicist suggested it was time to go home. (I’m sort of grateful that at least one of us had the good sense to call it a night…)

The boys did make it to the airport on time. I, however, was a little late for work.

Source: Cosmopolitan South Africa

Actor Luke MacFarlane Comes Out


Actor Luke MacFarlane came out in an interview with The [Toronto] Globe and Mail today.

Actor Luke MacFarlane Comes Out

Actor Luke MacFarlane came out in an interview with The [Toronto] Globe and Mail today. The native of Canada, though “terrified” about the future of his career, said to the paper, “I don’t know what will happen professionally, but I guess I can’t really be concerned about what will happen, because it’s my truth.”

MacFarlane is best known for his role as Scotty Wandell, the love interest of Kevin Walker (played by Matthew Rhys) on the ABC drama Brothers & Sisters (Note: A future plot spoiler is below). The actor went on to say, “There is this desire in L.A. to wonder who you are, and what’s been blaring for me for the last three years is how can I be most authentic to myself — so this is the first time I am speaking about it in this way.”

He told the paper: “From a standing-outside perspective, and also as someone who is gay, I think that it’s a very exciting time. How exciting that we’re saying ‘This can be part of the cultural fabric, now,’ because it is two series regulars, two people that you invite into your home and you see every week. It’s telling of the beginning of more waves, and I’m very proud of that.” He does, however, note that a certain irony still exists: While a show featuring a same-sex marriage may be an important step toward building tolerance, it’s still an attention-grabber in today’s television world.

The interview took place during the shooting of the season finale of Brothers & Sisters, in which (here’s the spoiler alert) Scotty and Kevin get married. (The Advocate)

Source: The Advocate